Will Dxm Become Outlawed?

[torque]

THIS TOPIC IS A COMBINATION OF TWO RELATED THREADS. The second topic , "DXM May Become Outlawed", was authored by jesric

There's been an undercurrent of similar claims lately:

New York, NY March 6, 2008 -- Here's some surprising news: The most effective medicines for a cough are NOT the ones which are being marketed as cough treatments.

In the latest Johns Hopkins Lung Disorders Health Alert (www.johnshopkinshealthalerts.com), their pulmonary specialists summarize the kiy findings you need to know from the latest American College of Chest Physicians (ACCP) comprehensive guidelines for treating various types of cough.

COUGH/COLDS THE #1 REASON FOR A VISIT TO THE DOCTOR
Cough is the number one reason people seek medical attention. The new ACCP guidelines state that many of the key ingredients in commonly taken over the counter cough and cold medications DO NOT effectively quiet coughs that are caused by the common cold.

The new ACCP guidelines stress that most over-the-counter cough expectorants or suppressants, including cough syrups and cough drops, just DON'T work.

Instead, certain older allergy and pain medicines are MORE EFFECTIVE for treating coughs, even though they are not advertised as cough busters.

A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF STUDIES ON COUGHS AND THE COMMON COLD
After reviewing studies done from 1980 to 2004 on cough and the common cold, an ACCP expert panel found that guaifenesin -- an expectorant found in such popular cough medicines as Robitussin and Mucinex -- is NOT effective in controlling cough caused by the common cold.

Guaifenesin is supposed to thin mucus and make it easier to cough up phlegm.

Of the four studies, which compared guaifenesin with a placebo, two showed that the cough medicine was effective, but two showed it was not.

The ACCP has concluded that this was NOT enough evidence to say that the drug is effective for treating coughs due to colds.

OTHER POSSIBLE COUGH AND COLD TREATMENTS?
Two other common cough treatments, dextromethorphan and codeine, also DID NOT pass muster for treating coughs caused by colds, according to the ACCP guidelines.

The experts found that the dose of dextromethorphan used in over-the-counter brands is ineffective. Even large doses of codeine didn't work.

SOME RELIEF FOR CHRONIC BRONCHITIS SUFFERERS
Although neither drug is effective for coughs from the common cold, both drugs may help people with chronic bronchitis get short-term relief from coughing, the panel noted.

OTHER POPULAR COLD TREATMENTS SCRUTINIZED
The ACCP has also found that the ever-popular zinc and echinacea were also ineffective for coughs due to colds.

SO WHAT DOES WORK FOR COUGHS?
The panel members didn't merely knock popular cough remedies off their pedestal. They did find some over-the-counter products that can help to calm coughs -- but not the ones you would expect.

Antihistamine/decongestant medications that contain brompheniramine and sustained-release pseudoephedrine can be effective, they found. These medications contain older antihistamines that can make you drowsy.

However, newer non-sedating antihistamines don't work for reducing cough, the panel concluded.

Another treatment to try is the pain reliever naproxen (Aleve), which the panel said has been shown to decrease the severity and frequency of coughing.

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This article was excerpted from the annual review The Johns Hopkins White Paper: Lung Disorders:
Johns Hopkins White Paper Lung Disorders

New Cough Care Guidelines
Perhaps we should all start writing testimonials:
"I was hacking my head off, but an 8 ouncer did the trick!"
"Best bet for a cough — Agent Lemon!"
"Delsym and Robogels work for me!"

[Hot Rod Zoidberg]

codeine most certainly works for cough. I have used it before during a cough, worked fine. DXM in high doses I cannot cough.

[Kaiserin]

I'm a little torn on this one to be honest with you. I want DXM to remain easily available for recreation, and it does have several medical benefits that aren't antitussive.

On the other hand, I think companies should practice honest marketing and only sell what they truly feel is effective.

[//.The_Unforgiven]

If I take ANY dose of DXM prior to smoking weed, I never cough, instant lungs of steel.

No antitussive properties, my left toe.

[Wǣrloga]

I believe they stated that at the doses recommended by the manufacturer, it does not help. At like 500 times the recommended dose it does wonders, though, haha.

[Twitch]

DIS IZZ FUCCCIN BOOLSHIT!!!!!!!!!

[Shamanix]

could this be the beginning of the end?

[tactical_err0r]

Originally posted by Kaiserin@Mar 6 2008, 01:39 PM
On the other hand, I think companies should practice honest marketing and only sell what they truly feel is effective.

You must be numb to disappointment by now, eh?

[Varis]

Oh, please let their greed win.... :thumbsup: (Me me me me me me ~.~ )

They just redesigned the syrup boxes and began advertising it on TV, they can't give it up now!

[Jesric]

First of all it's necessary for whoever is reading this to visit the main page.

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New York, NY March 6, 2008 -- Here's some surprising news: The most effective medicines for a cough are NOT the ones which are being marketed as cough treatments.

In the latest Johns Hopkins Lung Disorders Health Alert (www.johnshopkinshealthalerts.com), their pulmonary specialists summarize the kiy findings you need to know from the latest American College of Chest Physicians (ACCP) comprehensive guidelines for treating various types of cough.

COUGH/COLDS THE #1 REASON FOR A VISIT TO THE DOCTOR
Cough is the number one reason people seek medical attention. The new ACCP guidelines state that many of the key ingredients in commonly taken over the counter cough and cold medications DO NOT effectively quiet coughs that are caused by the common cold.

The new ACCP guidelines stress that most over-the-counter cough expectorants or suppressants, including cough syrups and cough drops, just DON'T work.

Instead, certain older allergy and pain medicines are MORE EFFECTIVE for treating coughs, even though they are not advertised as cough busters.

A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF STUDIES ON COUGHS AND THE COMMON COLD
After reviewing studies done from 1980 to 2004 on cough and the common cold, an ACCP expert panel found that guaifenesin -- an expectorant found in such popular cough medicines as Robitussin and Mucinex -- is NOT effective in controlling cough caused by the common cold.

Guaifenesin is supposed to thin mucus and make it easier to cough up phlegm.

Of the four studies, which compared guaifenesin with a placebo, two showed that the cough medicine was effective, but two showed it was not.

The ACCP has concluded that this was NOT enough evidence to say that the drug is effective for treating coughs due to colds.

OTHER POSSIBLE COUGH AND COLD TREATMENTS?
Two other common cough treatments, dextromethorphan and codeine, also DID NOT pass muster for treating coughs caused by colds, according to the ACCP guidelines.

The experts found that the dose of dextromethorphan used in over-the-counter brands is ineffective. Even large doses of codeine didn't work.

SOME RELIEF FOR CHRONIC BRONCHITIS SUFFERERS
Although neither drug is effective for coughs from the common cold, both drugs may help people with chronic bronchitis get short-term relief from coughing, the panel noted.

OTHER POPULAR COLD TREATMENTS SCRUTINIZED
The ACCP has also found that the ever-popular zinc and echinacea were also ineffective for coughs due to colds.

SO WHAT DOES WORK FOR COUGHS?
The panel members didn't merely knock popular cough remedies off their pedestal. They did find some over-the-counter products that can help to calm coughs -- but not the ones you would expect.

Antihistamine/decongestant medications that contain brompheniramine and sustained-release pseudoephedrine can be effective, they found. These medications contain older antihistamines that can make you drowsy.

However, newer non-sedating antihistamines don't work for reducing cough, the panel concluded.

Another treatment to try is the pain reliever naproxen (Aleve), which the panel said has been shown to decrease the severity and frequency of coughing.

----
This article was excerpted from the annual review The Johns Hopkins White Paper: Lung Disorders:
Johns Hopkins White Paper Lung Disorders

New Cough Care Guidelines
Perhaps we should all start writing testimonials:
"I was hacking my head off, but an 8 ouncer did the trick!"
"Best bet for a cough — Agent Lemon!"
"Delsym and Robogels work for me!"

This is SERIOUS. The other day my sister actually had a guy at walmart trying to sell her and her boyfriend a bottle of gels.

The product is soon to be outlawed, it's coming.

Should we capitalize on this by stocking up while we can, and saving it for when it's hard to find?

Or should we save them for ourselves?