pure dxm made illegal in Illinois

[levomethorphan]

Originally posted by Walkaway@Jun 21 2006, 11:25 AM

Who?

Distribution of DXM powder was technically illegal before as distribution of medication without a license, I think. I don't think possession was covered.

Lots of states have their own drug laws in addition to the federal drug laws, so such redundancy is not unheard of in "the system."

Who? I forget the exact members, but it tends to be the same people that think it is illegal to be high on a drug without a specific law that says so, and the people who blatantly overestimate the scope of the Patriot Act.

Under Federal law (Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act), distribution of DXM as a chemical is not illegal. It is only illegal if distributed in interstate commerce as a drug. All the suppliers I am familiar with are clearly distributing DXM as a fine chemical. They make no claims about medical utility, the powder is not packaged in a way that would suggest use as a drug, and some require a signed statement clearly stating the purchaser's intent of the use of the chemical.

Before GHB became a Schedule I drug in 2000, it was freely sold in chemical supply houses even though there was an FDA ban on GHB dating back from 1990. The reason GHB was legal to distribute was that it was being distributed as a chemical and not a drug. The same applies for DXM.

The redundancy part was the punchline of my joke. I know every crime has about ten laws applicable to it.

[Our Lady of Infinite Space]

Under Federal law (Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act), distribution of DXM as a chemical is not illegal. It is only illegal if distributed in interstate commerce as a drug. All the suppliers I am familiar with are clearly distributing DXM as a fine chemical. They make no claims about medical utility, the powder is not packaged in a way that would suggest use as a drug, and some require a signed statement clearly stating the purchaser's intent of the use of the chemical.

I wasn't referring to its distribution as a chemical by legitimate chemical supply houses and the somewhat dubious resellers, but to its explicit distribution as a drug that fucks you up by persons selling it in the recreational drug community as such.

[JayMark]

Originally posted by atomic_revolution@Jun 21 2006, 06:22 PM
i dont think much of a blackmarket will occur for this, but then again, you can get ibogaine if you look hard enough, which is a drug that i dont think anyone in tha history of tha world has done recreationally. not to mention, has a little legal issue EVER stopped anyone? it doesnt stop murderers, rapists, drug users, drug dealers, thieves, bums, con artists, goat fuckers, etc.... a law is just words. tha reality comes from the experience of tha act. if i was gonna kill someone, i wouldnt be scared of tha law. id first be concerned with how im gonna stay untraceable, then what karmic consequences id have to deal with for taking a life. but a law, by no means, is efficient anymore to stop anyone from doing anything. i think were at a point in history where laws are eventually going to become obsolete as people begin to wake up and realize tha connection between their actions and the outcomes, then theyll start acting in accordance to the outcomes they wanna see. tha law cant be everywhere all tha time, and even when it is, nobody is on its side. its gonna fail. its inevitable. but i can see vigilante style people witnessing a murder and annihilating tha killer. ive done shit like this before. i seen a dude tryin to stab my friend so i pulled out some nunchaku and swung as hard as i could at tha attackers face, probly saved my friends life, put tha kid in tha hospital, and taught the attacker a valuable lesson about fuckin around violently. an tha cops were tryin to find me for it, but due to my craftiness and untrackability, they were never able to. theyd stop me and ask if they knew where *name deleted* (me) was. id give em false clues. or theyd follow me around and id walk all normal but then id pull some ninja shit after i turned a corner and just disappear, leaving em wondering what tha fuck. and they didnt even no what happened. they "heard" that there was a fight and that they had to talk to both involved, plus witnesses. what would thatve solved? tha fight still woulda happened and nobody woulda got punished? why do they even waste their time? i wish theyd actually focus on real criminals. if they seen tha battle, theydve probly rooted for me. they even kno that tha kid i attacked was a huge drug dealer, and all around scumbag, a rapist, etc...and they still have tha sack to try to find me. foolish. not only that, ive had people break into my house tryin to get ten bux off my friend with weapons, and our clan thrashed em up, only to have em flee. then they came back sixty deep with guns and shit tryin to fight. so we call tha cops, and go out and fight with these fux until cops arrive. so tha clan defeats all these people, and tha ones that are still conscious flee into tha night. cops come FOUR hours later, and arrest nobody. many people are still on tha scene. and many are known criminals, theres broken windows, doors torn off tha hinges, guns on tha lawn, and they dont do shit. my brother and i got broken into AGAIN and attacked in our sleep by a crew of goons. they do mad property damage and leave, cops come three hours later. theyre station is right down tha road. for all they kno we coulda been killed by then. cops find tha kids, also known scumfuckers, and dont do a damn thing. no wonder people say fuck tha police. im sure if they heard we had some pot on tha scene they woulda TELEPORTED over to make some arrests on everyone for being anywhere near tha plant, but violence, they just dont seem to care. this is why my clan all carries ninja weapons like stars, nuns, swords, bostaffs, whatnot. cuz we kno were the only ones we can count on. someday tha world will run itself. and tha longer they stay neglectful, tha sooner that happens. people will just get sick of it and then ignore em.

Wow man I read it all and it touched me right! I told you, the USA is becoming a police state. The New World Order is trying to arise!

Resist. Never surrender.

[Xvall]

Did I mention that I went to school with his cousin (Don't know why I was thinking Niece, correction) and that she was dumb as hell?

[Dexter the Meth Orphan]

Not the first state to be pissed about DXM...It was my home state prior to having joined the service way back when. Hell, Walgreens and walmart were my go to only 5 months ago when home visiting family...and compared to my usual NC buying grounds I was shocked to see the drug already being carded for.

[Sabiancym]

NEW INFO!!! Straight from me in Illinois.

Every store I buy from now requires you to be 18 to purchase. They ask for your birthdate, but don't check ID's.....some kid ahead of me was under age and they refused service to him.

Thank god I am of legal age.

[Xvall]

What stores do you go to, and what product are you trying to purchase? This seems to be a case to case basis; I don't think the law (which hasn't even been fully implemented yet?) deals with any sort of OTC laws. Sometimes I'm carded - usually I'm not. At Jewel I can just go to the self-checkout counter and pay for it without dealing with anything, and there is no carding.

[Lucid Chicanery]

As I have just read about this particular topic for the first time, after an admitedly all too long break from coming to the DV(much less posting..), the only response that really told me anything I didn't already know, or have a good idea about was the response by atomic revolution. The one about the current American police state, basically. But it seemed more than just that, to me anyway, in that it was his intensely personal, and unjustifiably unfair, experience with the police in a more likely than not 'bad part of town'. I've lived close enough to the said part of town where I live. And visited my friends, stayed for extended periods, and have never experienced, let alone heard of from anyone I know around here being that fucking neglected by police.

Obviously, since atomic is posting on this board, he at least has/does dabble with drugs. Even so, as this should be the case with all/nearly everyone here - have you experinced or witnessed more or less firsthand this kind of insanity by an already disrespected national police force (America, I'm assuming, is where this guy is from, as am I)?

Knowing some specifics of police neglect, for lack of a better term, make me even more outraged that I already was about the issue. Please tell me I (and apparently Jaymark, who already responded to that post) am not alone on this?

___________

And Rill, no, I'm not even going to consider Centerville as my home anymore... as I don't live there at all at this point... haha.

[the answer]

does anyone know what the penalty for distribution is right now? (person to person).

[vapor]

such as Robitussin, which contains acceptable doses of the drug, Blagojevich said.

even dextromethorphan in pure, powder form can be used to treat a cough. So long as you have a good scale to accuratly measure your dose. Any substance can be taken in whats considered "unacceptable doses", even acetamenophen.

It must hurt alot when they talk out their ass so often. Maybe we should send em' a nice tube of Preperation H.