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Originally Posted by LongBeachDexer
Just because you haven't seen it first hand doesn't make it false. Maybe they never took enough dxm, or they were too oblivious to notice 'em (IMO they're not so prevalent at smaller doses). You can certainly take enough dxm to get "fucked up" without full on oev/cev/obe experiences.
I think the more important thing here is that a lot of young users are looking to get fucked up, not have a spiritually enlightening trip(or high dose trips). They probably wouldn't be able to handle it at such a young age..
I bet if you asked most young (tripping) kids if their vision was "fucked up" they'd say yes, not realizing those are oev's. Just sayin'.
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What does "fucked up" mean? They get double vision, and chaotic blindness, yes. That's not the same thing. I am pretty sure they would notice if they had full blown hallucinations, and I have known quite a few that have taken doses up to a gram and change.
I also want to note that hallucinations, OBEs, are prevelant in teenagers, just no where close to as frequent as in adult use. In child use (13 or younger), it is nil.