DXM *use*, no matter where you obtained it, is *legal.* As most of you know, it is *explicitly* exempted from the Federal Controlled Substances Act (see USC 21:812(g)(2) as amended), EVEN THOUGH IT IS AN OPTICAL ISOMER OF A SCHEDULED OPIATE. The Analogue Act *does not apply to Dextromethorphan.* This is settled Law. No State, nor DC, nor PR, no any US Territory, with one exception, has placed any tighter *regulatorty* restriction on Dextromethorphan itself (Utah). There *are* Rx preparations of Dextromethophan as well as OTC ones, believe it or not. But this is common of many OTC drugs. In these cases, it is because it is either combined with other substances, is in amounts of 30mg per dose unit, or because it has been *marketed* that way under it's Supplmental New Drug Application to the FDA. Therefore, anyone can posses Dextromethorphan -- technically, regardless of age. Now the real question becomes, for some, if you have a kilo of DXM powder and you're walking down the street, what happens? Well, you are probably asking for trouble. In the end, will you get prosecuted? Maybe, maybe not. *Can* you be arrested? Well, you "shouldn't" .. Will you if a cop wants to arrest you? Most likely. Will it get confiscated, no matter how it's labeled, what you say, etc. -- yes. Will you eventually get it back? Probably. Will you wind up spending money on legal representation? most likely. For *all* substances (and remember, it's not up to YOU to decide that the DXM you have is treated as a "chemical" or a "drug" -- it's up to the authorities), have regulatory controls as to storage, labeling, and "intent of use." They would want to know just why in the HELL you are walking around with a bunch of powdered DXM if you weren't say, going to ... sell or share it (which, by the way, you CANNOT do, unless you are licensed to sell USP grade drugs in your state). Remember, when it comes to these regulations, the burden of proof falls to YOU to prove OTHERWISE. There is a possible contention for sharing it, but again, you're going to be doing that in court -- not on the street with the cop. So, we're talking about attorney's, time, and money. So, you basically lose the instant you are arrested, for all practical purposes. If you go selling DXM, or marketing it as a drug for human consumption in large quantites, it is illegal under Federal and *every* State's law. While the FDA has primary jurisdiction, the DEA *can* consider it "diversion" of an OTC drug, which they watch -- they watch diversion of *all* drugs for human consumption by cooperative agreement with the FDA. It only takes an Administrative Order. I can guarantee if you buy 500KG of DXM and go marketing it on the Internet as a drug for sale w/o proper licensing, you will get more attention that you ever wanted... the legal fees, time, and effort will be huge. Most likely, you'll be arrested locally, but not prosecuted in the end. But again, really, you lose just by being arrested. And of course, you will be fined in both State and Federal Court. Now, if it's in your house, that's another matter altogether. We all know the story about the guy in Texas. The police came in, found a rather large amount of DXM, and confiscated it, thinking it was something else. If I remember correctly, either cocaine or methamphetime. They arrested him for possesing and for intent to traffic a controlled substance. Then, they tested it, and wow... they not only had to let him go, they had to give it back. Ironically, a DEA agent TOLD the local police that it was DXM, because it was labeled as such and "somehow" the DEA "knew" where it came from. The Texas man is now suing the local police. But if you are under the influence of *any* intoxicant on a public street in most places, there are local ordinances that police can arrest you under for public intoxication, etc. They usually don't ask what you are "on." But if you have DXM powder on you, expect them to assume it's controlled, and charge you first. You're better off carrying around a bottle of syrup. Then, you're clear. They would assume it was for medicinal purposes. Anyone can carry over-the-counter medicine. In fact, they won't even notice. And in EVERY state, if you drive under the influence of *any* drug that affects your judgement and you have an accident, or the officer feels you are "under the influence" you can be arrested, and charged. This includes medicines prescribed by a doctor. Keep your mouth shut! You dont' have to say a word -- and don't. Even if your doctor prescribed a drug, you can still be put in jail (and they DO, because you shouldn't be driving if you're impaired on Valium, or antipsychotics, etc.). So, shut up if they ask you if you are on any prescription medication that might affect your judgement (unless they are taking you to jail and you need it for your health). As for these other "uncontrolled" and (legally) untested substances (the DIPTs, AMT, etc). While it's true that the DEA has not prosecuted anyone, it's because they don't consider any of these "a drug of concern." The NDIC statistics on users is less than 10,000. That doesn't even get the glance of anyone at the DEA. It *DOES* get the attention of some *STATE* agencies, if someone dies, or if several minors go to the hospital in a local area. In fact, in several states, there are currently movements to control some of these substances -- either through regulation or legislation (Missouri is one of these -- their Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs is considered one of the most aggresive in the Nation -- and that should be a WARNING -- since Atty General Ashcroft is a PERSONAL FRIEND of the HEAD of that Department). Just FYI.. SAMSHA, the NDIC, and the Pharmaceutical Industry now puts the number of regular reacreational DXM "abusers" (they never use the term "user" bear in mind -- it's their word, not mine)... between 150,000 - 200,000. And that IS getting people's attention. That Pharmaceutical's Manfr's medical divisons have had many calls from users themselves, trying to find treatment centers -- and so have treatment centers, federal agencies (from SAMSHA to the Surgeon General), state agencies, local agencies. That is a HUGE number, btw. It is higher than Ketamine, PCP, and most designer drugs combined. However, the reaction to this is NOT regulation, but treatment (quite enlightened).. It appears that the powers that be know they have to keep DXM freely available, but they are going to have one HELL of a problem on their hands if everyone screams for treatment... particularly since the industry knew of the "psychoative effects" of DXM since it's creation and didn't fully disclose. The "demonize GHB and Ketamine" movement started in Missouri and New York." Again, if you are on the street with TFPP, or 5MEO-DIPT, do you REALLY expect some cop to have a clue? or listen to you? can you? no. They may or may not have a kit to test it, and even if the test kit comes up "unknown" they will likely confiscate it, depending on where you are, your attitude, and what you were doing to get their attention, etc. Best idea, keep it in your house, especially in larger quantites. Keep it out of sight. Remember, if they come into your house on a medical call, they have "probable cause" to take action on *anything* "in plain sight" now. *I* have had problems with this, and I have a Controlled Substance License. Best advice. If you purchase DXM Powder. 1)When it arrives, PRINT a label with the NDC (National Drug Code) and put it on the Bottle. The NDC is: 37097-300-26. 2) DO NOT carry a bag of it around with you. 3) If you need to walk around, do your mix, and mix it with some syrup, and carry it in a bottle (live with it). Know that DXM's federal legal status CANNOT be changed under the "Emergency Scheduling Act of 1984." It, unlike any other drug, can only be changed by legislation amending the Controlled Substances Act. This isn't going to happen, folks. Trust me, I've been to conferences with all of the current marketers of DXM. It might become what is known as "Behind the counter," a rare type of status. It can be done by making it Schedule V. But it is usually done with an FDA Advisory instead. You have to ask for it at the counter, and sign for it, with ID. This is what is done in Utah, voluntarily (so not everyone has to do it, yet). It used to be that most OTC drugs were this way... in fact, that's what "Over the Counter" means. It is a "legal term" that comes from the older drug laws. Pharmacies used to be set up where you went up to the counter and the Pharmacist got practically every drug for you, so she/he could counsel you. This is the way it still is in many countries. In fact, most pharmacists would like it this way, and it would be safer for the public (but it would make OTC drugs much more expensive and less convenient -- no 24 Wal Mart asprin). The only "legal" problem is really for some of the distributors of these "quasi-status" drugs.-- and DXM. It is questionable whether they are actually selling them as chemicals or drugs. But that is not the Customer's legal concern. Again, settled law. It may mean, that someday, one will order from their favorite supplier and it will be gone. And don't kid yourself. The "powers that be" know all about every one of these suppliers -- they just aren't a concern for them as yet. Although, since several have been implicated in *knowingly* selling massive quantites of "adulterants" to *known* Ecstacy labs, that may be an issue to come. (no, no names, don't ask, not even in email). -- Rob, PhD, Pharmaceutical Chemistry; PharmD, Forensic Chemistry Consultant; MSc, Pharmacolog