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Demoriel
12-06-2006, 12:04 PM
Think I can get this moved to the news section?

Teens try cough medicine for a high
Even middle schoolers are abusing the drugs with alarming effects

By Karen Kaplan and Seema Mehta
Los Angeles Times Staff Writers

4:06 PM PST, December 4, 2006

Teen use of over-the-counter cold and cough medicines to get a cheap high — a practice known as "robotripping" — is rising 50% a year and becoming one of the fastest growing drug abuse problems in California and around the country, according to a study released today.

Since 1999, teen abuse of Coricidin pills, Robutussin syrup and other common medications has risen tenfold, data from the California Poison Control System show. The widely available and inexpensive medicines are growing in popularity while use of illegal drugs such as Ecstasy, LSD and the date rape drug GHB have dropped, according to the report.

"Hey, Mom and Dad, pay attention," said Marilyn MacDougall, executive director of the Orange County Sheriff Department's drug abuse prevention program. "Over-the-counter medicines are the upcoming way your kids are going to abuse drugs."

The cold remedies are valued for an ingredient called dextromethorphan, which can cause hallucinations, out-of-body experiences and, in extreme cases, death. The drug, known by kids as DXM or Dex, was first abused in the 1960s when it was in a cough medicine called Romilar, which was withdrawn from the market in 1973.

Health officials spotted a revival in the late 1990s. About two-thirds of abusers now take Coricidin HBP Cold & Cough, whose candy red tablets are nicknamed CCC, triple C and skittles.

A study in May by the Partnership for a Drug-Free America estimated that 2.4 million teenagers — about 1 in 10 — got high on cough medicines in 2005. That puts it on a par with cocaine and slightly above methamphetamines.

School administrators are learning about the craze the hard way. In El Dorado, a community of apple orchards and Christmas tree farms outside Sacramento, seven high school students were rushed to the emergency room in October after taking Coricidin. The Union Mine High School students had purchased several boxes at a dollar store and swallowed five to eight tablets each during their morning snack time. Administrators learned about it after one student started vomiting in class.

"This is new to us — it caught a lot of people by surprise," said Principal Carl Fickle. "It didn't catch the kids by surprise."

The latest study, published in the December issue of the Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine, found that the growth of dextromethorphan abuse is being driven by children between the ages of 9 and 17.

Abuse is most common among 15- and 16-year-olds, the study found. The number of 12- and 13-year-olds using the drug exceeds the number of 18-year-olds, indicating that it is popular in middle schools as well as high schools, according to senior author Ilene B. Anderson, a toxicology management specialist at the California Poison Control System in San Francisco.

"I did not expect 12-year-olds to be abusing it," Anderson said.

The study was based on 1,382 calls made to the California Poison Control Center over a six-year period that involved cases of dextromethorphan exposure. Those calls were generally made in emergency situations, usually by physicians treating overdose patients in hospitals. They represent only a fraction of overall drug use, Anderson said.

"If someone is abusing dextro and gets a high, they don't call us," she said. "I think it is grossly underreported."

Of the cases reported to the state poison control center, seven — amounting to 0.5% of the total — were life-threatening. None resulted in death, according to the study. The number of deaths nationwide is unknown.

The researchers compared the California findings to general statistics from the American Assn. of Poison Control Centers and the Drug Abuse Warning Network and found that the trends here are in line with the rest of the country.

Dextromethorphan appeals to teenagers because it "is easily and legally available in most pharmacies and large grocery stores," Anderson said. "It's relatively inexpensive — in many cases, one package can cause hallucinations."

Websites offer testimonials about the buzz the drug provides. Some users describe it as "slightly intoxicating," while others compare their experiences to the hallucinatory effects of ketamine or PCP.

Dextromethorphan users can consult online calculators — where they enter their weight, brand of medicine and "plateau" of high they want to achieve — to determine how big a dose to take.

Because the cough remedies look innocuous, Anderson said, "you can have a package and your parents would never even suspect it, compared to a little white bag of powder which certainly would cause a red flag to go up."

When taken in large quantities, dextromethorphan can make the heart race and blood pressure rise. Some users become agitated while others become lethargic, confused, dizzy or act as if they are inebriated. Life-threatening side-effects include seizures and elevated body temperature, Anderson said.

Users can also have adverse reactions from overdosing on other ingredients in the cold remedies. High quantities of pseudoephedrine and antihistamines can cause irregular heartbeats, high blood pressure and seizures, Anderson said.

"The one that scares me the most is acetaminophen [the medicine in Tylenol] because it can cause liver failure," she said.

State lawmakers in California and elsewhere have tried to ban sales to minors of the hundreds of products that contain dextromethorphan, but those efforts have failed. Some drug stores, including Walgreen's, Rite Aid and Wal-Mart, have voluntarily restricted access to customers younger than 18.

U.S. consumers spent about $4.5 billion on cold and cough remedies last year, according to the Consumer Healthcare Products Assn., a trade group representing manufacturers of over-the-counter medicines. The group is pushing federal legislation to ban online sales of pure dextromethorphan in powdered form and is working to shut down websites promoting the drug's recreational use, said President Linda Suydam.

Federal legislation that would restrict the sale of dextromethorphan powder to researchers, drug makers and other legitimate users is expected to be voted on this week by the House of Representatives. The legislative effort was prompted by the overdose deaths last year of five teenagers in Florida, Washington and Virginia.

Teens are continuing to die from the habit, including 16-year-old Lucia Martino, a junior at Canyon High School in Anaheim.

In September, the gregarious soccer player swallowed 20 Coricidin pills in pursuit of a cheap high while the rest of her family slept. Her mother found her vomiting the next morning and took her to the emergency room.

Doctors were baffled by her malfunctioning liver and struggled to pinpoint the cause. Four days later, after Lucia had fallen into a coma, a friend pulled a nurse aside and told her about the pills.

It was too late. Martino died less than a day later, on Sept. 17. At the funeral, her parents left the casket open so the hundreds of teens in attendance could see how the pills had swelled Lucia's athletic, 125-pound frame to a bloated 170 pounds.

http://www.latimes.com/features/heal...home-headlines

Tyutchev
12-06-2006, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Demoriel@Dec 7 2006, 01:04 AM
Since 1999, teen abuse of Coricidin pills, Robutussin syrup and other common medications has risen tenfold, data from the California Poison Control System show. The widely available and inexpensive medicines are growing in popularity while use of illegal drugs such as Ecstasy, LSD and the date rape drug GHB have dropped, according to the report.

"Hey, Mom and Dad, pay attention," said Marilyn MacDougall, executive director of the Orange County Sheriff Department's drug abuse prevention program. "Over-the-counter medicines are the upcoming way your kids are going to abuse drugs."

Articles like this always amaze me. Do they really think they are doing the community a service by bringing more publicity to this drug? If I was a 16-year-old American flipping through the newspaper and had read this story, it would have piqued my interest and compelled me to try DXM. "A cheap, legal drug that produces similar effects to ketamine or PCP? And that is actually named by the article, so I have no trouble identifying which brand to buy? Awesome!"

To be honest, I'm a little mixed-up about this though. While this article is full of scare-mongering, I do think that adolescent abuse of DXM is a little worrying. Parents should be educated about what their kids could be doing, but it shouldn't be through articles like this. If I'm ever a parent I plan to be extremely honest with my kids- I will talk to them openly about drugs, tell them I won't be mad if they do drugs but would prefer they let me know what they were doing, just so I'd ever know if there was anything to worry about. I'll probably even offer them a joint when they're old enough.

Demoriel
12-06-2006, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Tyutchev@Dec 6 2006, 12:17 PM
If I was a 16-year-old American flipping through the newspaper and had read this story, it would have piqued my interest and compelled me to try DXM. "A cheap, legal drug that produces similar effects to ketamine or PCP? And that is actually named by the article, so I have no trouble identifying which brand to buy? Awesome!"
Right, even right now if I had never heard of DXM before and I was reading this article I would have drove straight to my local store and bought me some.
:chug: :pills:

//.The_Unforgiven
12-06-2006, 01:57 PM
Articles like this make me stop for a second, and think "Well, if everyone knew what the hell harm reduction meant, a lot of these kids would choose NOT to make sketchy decisions, like going to class all dexxed-out on Coricidin. Ignorance disgusts me, especially if it's life-threatening ignorance.

It's a double edged sword though... If a majority of parents saw the DV, they'd just assume we're a bunch of drug-addled lunatics (yes, I know... we are.) But really, a lot of the older people give some good advice, and it's a community where people can feel accepted, and get a lot of valuable information that could even save their life.

On the other hand, didn't a parent contacting the authorities manage to get the DV shut down at one point?

It's bullshit. There are rules set in place here that disallow illegal conduct. It would be like if you were in your own house with your friends, and someone notified the police that you were discussing drugs and the like, then came to arrest you.

*shakes head*
People had better smarten up, and make better decisions, before I start slapping with trouts.

/rant
(sorry for going a tad off-topic.)

Unnamed
12-06-2006, 02:01 PM
Does it surprise anyone else that even with 1 out of 10 kids using CCC's 2/3rds of the time only .5% of emergency situations were actually considered life threatening? And even moreso that they included this in the article?

Just imagine if people actually knew what they were doing and were responsible...well, actually I'm sure it would be exactly the same. Feeling good has always been frowned upon in a moral society.

Midknight
12-06-2006, 06:49 PM
It wouldn't be such an epidemic if they would just legalize pot.

Ciggerettes don't last long enough and alcohol has the worst hangover of almost any drug.

Besides, if society didn't frown upon smoking pot, stoners would be an entirely different group of people.

They have to be careful where they smoke, so they stay at home and smoke.

They have to be careful where they are high at, so they stay at home high.

The staying at home amotivational syndrome mj problem is probably caused by habits formed while smoking pot because it's just too risky to go around and smoke pot all the time.

Now, Myself and many of you break this all the time. FUCK THEM!

the answer
12-08-2006, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Demoriel@Dec 6 2006, 12:04 PM
how the pills had swelled Lucia's athletic, 125-pound frame to a bloated 170 pounds.

Anyone able to explain this? I dont understand how this would happen?

Arm
12-15-2006, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by Demoriel@Dec 6 2006, 11:04 AM
In El Dorado, a community of apple orchards and Christmas tree farms outside Sacramento, seven high school students were rushed to the emergency room in October after taking Coricidin. The Union Mine High School students had purchased several boxes at a dollar store and swallowed five to eight tablets each during their morning snack time.
They have snack time at a high school? What are they, toddlers? While having a snack time in school does sound good, it also sounds like something from preschool.

DXM User
12-16-2006, 02:46 AM
Originally posted by Arm+Dec 15 2006, 10:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Arm @ Dec 15 2006, 10:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Demoriel@Dec 6 2006, 11:04 AM
In El Dorado, a community of apple orchards and Christmas tree farms outside Sacramento, seven high school students were rushed to the emergency room in October after taking Coricidin. The Union Mine High School students had purchased several boxes at a dollar store and swallowed five to eight tablets each during their morning snack time.
They have snack time at a high school? What are they, toddlers? While having a snack time in school does sound good, it also sounds like something from preschool. [/b][/quote]
Dude, we have snack. We get 4-minute passing periods and we're on a kinda big campus so we don't have time to eat between classes. We have lunch after 5th period, which is a LONG stretch (well past 1:00) from when school starts (7:30). Kids don't want to do shit when they're hungry. Everybody knows that.

Oh and uh, fuck the LA Times.

Varis
12-16-2006, 03:24 AM
Wow, I really do hate children.... thanks for all the shitty publicity AGAIN annoying little fuckers.... :thumbsup: I hope they get their asses kicked by daddy.

darklife
12-16-2006, 07:42 PM
The group is pushing federal legislation to ban online sales of pure dextromethorphan in powdered form and is working to shut down websites promoting the drug's recreational use, said President Linda Suydam.

Well if they are going to try and shut down websites promoting freedom of speech then they better fucking re-write the bill of rights!
Also they should shut down all of these news reporting sites because they promote the drug use just as much IF NOT MORE then sites like the DV and T3P and the like.


"The one that scares me the most is acetaminophen [the medicine in Tylenol] because it can cause liver failure," she said.

Yea, so lets ban acetaminophen while we are at it to! :P
When will people learn that dextromethorphan is usually not the single cause alone of deaths and people ending up in the ER.

Keith's Rain
12-18-2006, 03:22 PM
Good point B)

smokey
12-26-2006, 01:41 AM
it was an article just like this one that first inspired me to try dxm. the article was talkin about kids getting high on coriciden cough and colds tablets, next thing i kno im at walmartb