1 Student Expelled, 5 Suspended

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1 student expelled, 5 suspended for abusing cold medicine
By Times Snohomish County Bureau

One student was expelled and five were suspended from Lynnwood High School after an incident in which five students were transported to a hospital for overdosing on an over-the-counter cold medicine.

The student who brought the medication to school and gave it to the others was expelled last Wednesday, the day after the incident. The others were suspended.

All of the students recovered. One student was not sick enough to warrant being taken to a hospital.

The medication, Coricidin Cough & Cold, contains an ingredient that can cause hallucinations, but another ingredient is toxic when taken in large amounts.

Link: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/snoh...2_expel22n.html (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/snohomishcountynews/2002126462_expel22n.html)

[silent voice of seduction]

Expel them damn abusers! Put that druggie scum in jail! Wipe them from the face of the earth!!!!

[Midknight]

I cannot totally disagree with expelling someone for handing out drugs in a school.

It's part of the policy and people should respect that and accept the consequences if caught...

Of course it's a lopsided punishment and still is wrong...they should of all got expelled or none of them.

but at least they said ANOTHER ingredient is toxic

[silent voice of seduction]

Originally posted by Midknight@Dec 23 2004, 06:58 AM
I cannot totally disagree with expelling someone for handing out drugs in a school.
OK, giving it to others can be seen as a bad thing. And the others were only suspended. If that's all the punishment they get, it's actually pretty fair.

[Eloivore]

Hey, at least they knew the relevant difference between DXM and CPM.

[the ashtar]

Originally posted by bwhite@Dec 23 2004, 11:13 AM
Hey, at least they knew the relevant difference between DXM and CPM.
LOL yeah I guess the media cant spread misinformation ALL of the time.

[vapor]

Originally posted by Midknight@Dec 23 2004, 06:58 AM
I cannot totally disagree with expelling someone for handing out drugs in a school.

It's part of the policy and people should respect that and accept the consequences if caught...

Of course it's a lopsided punishment and still is wrong...they should of all got expelled or none of them.

but at least they said ANOTHER ingredient is toxic
I agree. While alot of people can say im a idiot for being against people taking drugs at school, ill take a firm stand that im against it. When i went to highschool i took drugs and went to school, as I got older though, near my junior year i stopped. I occassionally would but I pretty much didnt. It was a waste to me, school is generally in my opinion a bad environment for drugs use. I would work hard at school, then right after school smoke budds or use opiates or whatever I had.

I would be even more careful when prepareing my home environment for dxm. This to me is a typical case of kids jsut wanting to get fucked up at school. Hopefully they will grow out of it. Dxm in my opinion is definatly not a drug to take at school, I perosnally ahve only dexed a handful of times at school, and a couple were nice, but not that great.

And I was also suprised they mentioned that the "other" (CPM) ingrediant was toxic in large doses.

Impressed me that they did enough research to mention that.

The medication, Coricidin Cough & Cold, contains an ingredient that can cause hallucinations, but another ingredient is toxic when taken in large amounts.

[Midknight]

Originally posted by Feldwebel Pfeffer+Dec 23 2004, 07:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Feldwebel Pfeffer @ Dec 23 2004, 07:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Midknight@Dec 23 2004, 06:58 AM
I cannot totally disagree with expelling someone for handing out drugs in a school.
OK, giving it to others can be seen as a bad thing. And the others were only suspended. If that's all the punishment they get, it's actually pretty fair. [/b][/quote]

I have to say though, when it's a non illegal drug, they would have probably gone out and gotten it themselves. And most likely they planned it out.

There is the possibility that this was one of those... "yo man, take like 10 of these and youll be tripping out hard core man!" then the others being overly trusting and ignorant respond. "alright man, I hate being sober at school anyway.. munch munch munch"

But In my experience that doesn't happen to much :)

But I was just saying, handing out completely legal things is not illegal and should not warrent extra punishment.

But it's up to the school.

[PeoplesMind]

Originally posted by Midknight@Dec 23 2004, 05:58 AM
I cannot totally disagree with expelling someone for handing out drugs in a school.

It's part of the policy and people should respect that and accept the consequences if caught...
I can disagree, and I do (though not totally). Of course if you do the crime, expect to do the crime. But I disagree on the point that the use of drugs *should* be a crime. So I can not agree with punishment for what I beleive is not a crime.

-Nitin

[jersey_emt]

Originally posted by PeoplesMind+Dec 25 2004, 12:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PeoplesMind @ Dec 25 2004, 12:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Midknight@Dec 23 2004, 05:58 AM
I cannot totally disagree with expelling someone for handing out drugs in a school.

It's part of the policy and people should respect that and accept the consequences if caught...
I can disagree, and I do (though not totally). Of course if you do the crime, expect to do the crime. But I disagree on the point that the use of drugs *should* be a crime. So I can not agree with punishment for what I beleive is not a crime.

-Nitin [/b][/quote]
But what they did was not a crime. Every school has a zero-tolerance policy, and I agree with them. School is not the place to be taking recreational drugs of any kind.

IMO their punishment was fair, and actually quite lenient. All the students involved could have been expelled.

[Eloivore]

Originally posted by jersey_emt@Dec 25 2004, 12:11 AM
But what they did was not a crime. Every school has a zero-tolerance policy, and I agree with them. School is not the place to be taking recreational drugs of any kind.
"Zero tolerance" is a dumb idea, because it inevitably leads (and has led) to people being suspended or expelled for taking medicine for legit reasons (if you think that's wack, you should see what the zero-tolerance weapon policies have brought about). Not to mention that telling asthmatic kids they have to go to the school nurse whenever they have an acute attack sounds like a good way to get sued. It's also no more effective at stopping drug abuse than the sensible discretionary policies that apply to most every other disciplinary problem.

[Midknight]

Well at least no one died.

[jersey_emt]

Originally posted by bwhite+Dec 25 2004, 12:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bwhite @ Dec 25 2004, 12:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--jersey_emt@Dec 25 2004, 12:11 AM
But what they did was not a crime. Every school has a zero-tolerance policy, and I agree with them. School is not the place to be taking recreational drugs of any kind.
"Zero tolerance" is a dumb idea, because it inevitably leads (and has led) to people being suspended or expelled for taking medicine for legit reasons (if you think that's wack, you should see what the zero-tolerance weapon policies have brought about). Not to mention that telling asthmatic kids they have to go to the school nurse whenever they have an acute attack sounds like a good way to get sued. It's also no more effective at stopping drug abuse than the sensible discretionary policies that apply to most every other disciplinary problem. [/b][/quote]
My high school had a zero tolerance policy for drugs, and if you had a prescription for a medication, you were allowed to take it without having to go to the nurse. Basically, you only got suspended/expelled if you were caught with illicit drugs on you, or if you were intoxicated and did not have a script for something that could be causing it.

Yes, it's not a perfect policy, but still...drugs have no place in a school.

[Eloivore]

Many "zero tolerance" policies are just that -- zero tolerance, the administration does not have the ability to make exceptions for any reason. It's the same idea as mandatory minimums -- tying the hands of those in a position to make sensible decisions. I'm not against drug policies for schools, I'm specifically against the "zero tolerance" idea.

When I was in school it was fairly common for people to carry aspirin or allergy pills with them (especially in flu and allergy seasons, the latter is terrible in this part of the country). The staff was pretty good about catching and disciplining kids who were high in school; they didn't need a zero tolerance policy to do so. Kids who want to sneak in drugs can (and do) still do it; it just makes it inconvenient for everyone else.

The zero tolerance weapons policies are just as dumb. I recently spoke with someone who went to the same HS I went to (mind you, he's *cough* years younger than I am). They suspended him for carrying an x-acto knife (which he'd been using in art class). Mind you when I was there people regularly carried around x-acto knives, swiss army knifes, etc., because people used them all the time in art projects and theater and other work (the rule was you had to keep anything that could do damage to someone -- hunting knives and guns -- locked in your car). Nobody got stabbed then, nobody's been stabbed since. Everyone realized a violent kid can find plenty of weapons in about half the classrooms (chem lab, metal shop, art class, biology lab, etc.), so they disciplined people for being violent. The policy worked fine, I don't see why they changed it, especially given school violence has generally *decreased* over the past 20 or 30 years.

[jersey_emt]

Originally posted by bwhite@Dec 25 2004, 03:43 PM
Many "zero tolerance" policies are just that -- zero tolerance, the administration does not have the ability to make exceptions for any reason. It's the same idea as mandatory minimums -- tying the hands of those in a position to make sensible decisions. I'm not against drug policies for schools, I'm specifically against the "zero tolerance" idea.

When I was in school it was fairly common for people to carry aspirin or allergy pills with them (especially in flu and allergy seasons, the latter is terrible in this part of the country). The staff was pretty good about catching and disciplining kids who were high in school; they didn't need a zero tolerance policy to do so. Kids who want to sneak in drugs can (and do) still do it; it just makes it inconvenient for everyone else.

The zero tolerance weapons policies are just as dumb. I recently spoke with someone who went to the same HS I went to (mind you, he's *cough* years younger than I am). They suspended him for carrying an x-acto knife (which he'd been using in art class). Mind you when I was there people regularly carried around x-acto knives, swiss army knifes, etc., because people used them all the time in art projects and theater and other work (the rule was you had to keep anything that could do damage to someone -- hunting knives and guns -- locked in your car). Nobody got stabbed then, nobody's been stabbed since. Everyone realized a violent kid can find plenty of weapons in about half the classrooms (chem lab, metal shop, art class, biology lab, etc.), so they disciplined people for being violent. The policy worked fine, I don't see why they changed it, especially given school violence has generally *decreased* over the past 20 or 30 years.
I understand and agree 100%.

[vapor]

There is the possibility that this was one of those... "yo man, take like 10 of these and youll be tripping out hard core man!" then the others being overly trusting and ignorant respond. "alright man, I hate being sober at school anyway.. munch munch munch"

I think there is more than just a possibility, I say its almsot a certainty. Think about it, if these kids were responisble and informed drug users, they wouldnt be taking coricidin in the first place. Dxm only products are easily and readily avaible at all places that sell coricidin. These kids jsut heard from someone you can get fucked up from taking coricidin, so they took it. End of story. You have too much faith in todays drug abusing youth. Yes drug abusing, because sadly most of todays youth are not responsible recreational drug users.

I dont agree with a zero tolerance policy at all, I tihnk tis bullshit and as earlier stated just leaves all the incovinience to the people whom take drugs for legitimate reasons. However I stand with my opinion that school is not the place to use recreational drugs.

And im shure these were kids just looking to get fucked up. I dont feel like im rediculous for thinking so, I still stay in contact with people tha tgo to high shcool and they have told me about people that take coricidin. The majority of them take it at school, because it is easy to conceal and take and readily avaible. These are the same kids that go home and take 10 zoloft because it says anti-depressant, and they beleive the oposite of being depressed is being happy or manic, therefore they take them.

There are too many kids out there like this, and these kids were the same type of kids. Im not saying they just decided to take them for the first time out of the blue, they more than likly had done it before, but what I am shure of is they were uninformed and irresponsible. I doubt any one of them could even pronounce dextromethorphan or tell you what class of drugs it belongs to.

[Ubiquitous]

Getting high in school is stupid, and I feel no remorse for the idiots that did it.

Its their education, let them learn from it.